Comments [1] posted: Jan 16, 2009 Greg O'Byrne

ArtificialFictionBrainRich and I got in a big discussion about this over lunch the other day and I wanted to see if it could spur some debate in the vast world spanning techRivet Community.

It goes a bit like this.

Assumptions:

  1. Hard AI is eventually possible. [Rich BTW does not agree that it is]
  2. Moore's law holds across technology implementations.  Meaning it is not tied to just silicon based semiconductors but will continue its pace of increasing speed as replacement technologies are developed.

If those assumptions are true then it follows that:

  1. Hard AI is inevitable.
  2. At some  point Timmy the 14 year old nerd will have a simulated universe in his mom's basement on his $400 Dell.  Complete with trillions of legitimate sentient beings.
  3. We have no way of knowing if we are not already on Timmy's machine.

DescartesIf those assumptions do not hold then:

  1. Is that an implication that there is something unknowable about the human mind? 
  2. A soul perhaps?

Of course you can take the practical way out and agree with Descartes "I think therefore I am." and call a spade a spade and that this whole argument is just foolish sophistry.

...but what's the fun in that?


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tags: [AI | geek | philosophy]


Friday, January 23, 2009 12:12:41 AM UTC
Yeah, and you forgot to mention that if AI is possible, it would be possible to create a high fidelity simulated reality universem populatd by AI "intelligences", and there would be NO WAY the inhabitants of the virtual universe would be able to know they were not "real"

And, as a corolary, there is no way we could know if we are not inhabiting exactly such a simulated universe. In fact, with increasing computing power, it would be likely that future bored teenagers would simulate whole worlds just for entertainment.

"Johnny, quit playing with your virtual universe and take out the trash please"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14tier.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5090&en=22bfff4070a81187&ex=1344744000
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